Articles and Links opposing the Depart Out Teachings of Harold Camping otherwise known as Campingism.
Does this teaching meet the criteria for being an "ism?" The answer is yes. The word "ism" means "a distinctive doctrine, cause, or theory." Therefore, this theory of "Depart Out" needs to be placed in the category of cults as another "ism" because of its distinctive created heresies which permeate it.
(Job 32:9 KJV) Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.
The words of a
wise man's mouth are gracious; but the lips of a fool will swallow up himself. {13} The
beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness: and the end of his talk is mischievous
madness.
(Eccl 10:12-13 KJV)
(Acts 20:30 KJV) Also of
your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away
disciples after them.
Some Heresies taught by Family Radio and its slavish followers as of 1/21/10:
Annihilation of the Unsaved
The Rejection of the Total Depravity of Man in denial of Romans 3:12
No Visible Return of Christ
No resurrection of the Unsaved
No Final Judgment of the Unsaved
The eternal wrath of God on the unsaved will last 5 months
Allah is the God of the Bible - Click here for who Allah really is
If you support Family Radio, then you are as guilty as those who are teaching these heresies.
If Family Radio is true to their Present Beliefs....
Family Radio Publishes Intentional Lie - 9/29/09
From the tract entitled
"The End of the World is Almost Here! HOLY GOD will Bring Judgment Day on May 21, 2011"
"Because God is so great and glorious He calls Himself by many names. Each name tells us something about the glorious character and nature of God. Thus in the Bible we find such names as God, Jehovah, Christ, Jesus, Lord, Allah, Holy Spirit, Savior, etc."
Open up Your King James Bible and search, see if the Bible ever uses the name "Allah" for God!
It is not there and Camping knows it!
(Jer 48:10 KJV) Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.
Family Radio is cursed because Camping is doing the work of the Lord deceitfully.
I will give any Campingite $1000 if they can find the name "Allah" as a name for God in the King James Bible!
FAMILY RADIO PROGRAM ALERT (09/17/08)
Beware of the Saturday morning children's program "Treasures from the Bible."
This program is not teaching the children biblical principles for living instead they are continuously pushing the agenda of Harold Camping. Their program smacks of a cultic slavishness to Camping and this program attempts to bring your child under the cultic teaching of Harold Camping. They are constantly pushing the date setting and teaching lies. They claim that all pastors and seminary professors are going to be destroyed because they are not looking for Christ's return (9/13/08). What they are really teaching is that if you do not follow Harold Camping as a mindless slave, then you will lose your salvation and be annihilated. The week prior (9/6/08) Gunther Von Harringa stated "that those in the churches lack compassion because they have a false gospel." This program is an attempt to manipulate your child's mind and thinking process. If they cannot get you to leave your church, they are attempting to control your child so they will refuse to go to church and will cause a rift in the family. This is what these Campingites do, they have caused problems in families all to the glory of their deluded master Camping. Just because Gunther Von Harringa has taught and is teaching his children not to think and to relegate all thinking to Camping, do not fall prey to this radio cult and protect your children from them by turning it off. The program before it "Uncle Charlie" is alright because they teach biblical values for living for children and they do a nice job explaining to the children whereas Treasures from the Bible just pushes Camping's heresy and judgment, there is no biblical encouragement coming from this program. Protect your children and family from cultic deference. Remember your children were given to you by God not by Harold Camping and you are responsible for what they hear and ingest.
I have sent Gunther Von Harringa several e-mails concerning his Campingite teachings on this show. He has stated 4 times that pastors, elders, and theologians are under the authority of Satan. He has refused to answer my e-mails concerning this blanket assertion. This program continues to be a program of mental child abuse and is trying to reach children and get them to be disobedient to their parents. How? If the parents still attend church, this program may cause a child to become rebellious toward their parents based upon Camping's deluded teachings and Gunther's repetition of these lies to your children. Avoid this program at all costs or else you too will be guilty of mental abuse of your child. - 7/18/09
You can contact them at the website below and ask them why they have chosen to become a stooge of Harold Camping! Remember they are going after your children and their Christianity as cultic predators!
Here's Something to Think About!
Camping and his followers really do not believe that May 21, 2011 is the end. As much as they tend to push this date and tell everyone that it is going to happen with 100% certainty, they disbelieve it to the fullest. How do I know? A simple acid test. Whenever you encounter a Campingite or even Camping himself, ask them if they are going to give away all their earthly possessions or if they are going to sell all their earthly possessions. The Campingites will quickly disdain this idea. If they truly believed that May 21, 2011 is the end, they would have no objections to divesting their earthly possessions for they will not be needed after May 21, 2011. The fact that they will not, shows their hypocritical point of view on Camping's prediction. If they truly believed, there would be no hesitation on their part but the fact that they refuse, shows their complete and total denial of Camping's prophecy, yet these hypocrites want everyone else to bow the knee to Camping while they themselves only give verbal assent. True belief is action based, not just word based. Remember James!
(James 2:20 KJV) But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Therefore, May 21, 2011 falls into this category because faith without works is dead. Their faith is dead because their works are dead. Summation: None of them think it is going to happen or they would respond with works and not words alone!
The Amazing Doctrinal Parallels between the Watchtower and Family Radio
04/21/08
Sermons Refuting Harold Camping
11/04/07
Harold Camping denies the Biblical teaching of the doctrine of eternal damnation.
In his fellowship in Alameda, California on Sunday 11/04, he stated that there will be no eternal damnation of the unsaved but they will simply be annihilated. He claims the rapture of the believers will be on May 21, 2011 followed by 5 months of terror on the unbelievers left on the earth. When the Lord returns on October 20, 2011, the unbelievers will simply be annihilated. He has now adopted a prominent Jehovah's Witness teaching. Any one who supports Family Radio now has become partakers of this rank anti-Bible heresy. I am convinced without a doubt that Harold Camping is under the delusion and authority of Satan. There is no way that the Holy Spirit would ever contradict the Bible He penned through holy men of old.
(1 John 2:19 KJV) They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
The Ninth Commandment
(Exodus 20:16 KJV) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
The Bible is very clear that Christians are not to bear false witness against anyone. In fact, the Lord Jesus Christ even commanded us to love our neighbor as we love ourselves. (Luke 10:27 KJV) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. Further down in Luke 10:29, one of the Lawyers asks the Lord "who is my neighbor?" and that sets the stage for the Lord's teaching on the Good Samaritan. Harold Camping and his followers are continuing to teach that every church in the world is apostate based upon his personal belief system and not on the facts of reality. Unless someone has visited every church in the world, a blanket accusation against every church in the world is nothing more than false acusations. This is one of the most sinful aspects of Campingism and it seems none of the disciples even take this into consideration because they all see Camping as totally infallible, if they didn't then they would question his teachings, which they don't! One of his most ridiculous declarations is that no one in the world was saved between 1988 and 1994. (Click Here) We do not walk with blinders on, if you walk into 80% of all the churches around the world you will no doubt find total apostasy and maybe another 15% you may find partial apostasy but as there will be a remnant of true believers as we head toward the last day, there will also be a remnant of true churches tied to that remnant of true believers. Harold Camping and his followers claim to be the true believers and yet they are very eclectic concerning the Bible and the verses they use which can be twisted to fit into his personal belief system. Anyone without a veil over their understanding can easily see that they are in severe violation of the ninth commandment by falsely accusing the blood bought brethren, which is absolute sin. I do not expect them to consider this reality. They seem to be happy with the veil over their understanding in their rank accusatory mindset.
To this present day, I am still waiting for any Campingite to show me a "Church Age" in the Scriptures! This entire heresy is built on something which does not exist in Scripture, which means Campingism is without biblical foundation.
From Jim Garcia - A Campingite from Latter Rain
This was posted on Minor Prophets Yahoo Group in opposition to a post of mine on 7/31/05.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Minor_Prophets/messages/6883
Do you see how they have elevated Harold Camping's teachings not only to the equivalency of God breathed Scripture but the they claim that Camping's teachings are the Word of God!
"God's command to "come out" and "depart out" is, in fact, the Word of God and every bit as much the Gospel as doctrines on total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, etc."
Campingites continually try to squeeze Christians into a corner by asking questions which only entrap. Whenever you are approached by one, ask them the answers to these 5 questions. They must give Bible verses and not Camping's analogies from his books.
1. Where is there such a thing as a “corporate”
church age in Scripture?
2. Where is the biblical validation that the church is Babylon?
3. Where is the biblical validation that the church is the Jewish temple?
4. Where is the biblical validation that the Lord’s Supper and Baptism are
ceremonial laws?
5. Where is the biblical validation that Revelation 8:1 is 1988-1994?
Should We Leave Our Churches?: A Biblical Response to Harold Camping
by J. Ligon Duncan and Mark Talbot
Should We leave Our Churches by J. Ligon Duncan is a response to the teachings of Harold Camping on departing out of the Church.
(1 John 4:1 KJV) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Family Radio Airs Mormon Advertisement - 2/21/05
On February 20, Sunday morning at 10:59 AM, WFME aired a Mormon commercial which gave a website at LDS.org. This is not the first time they have done this. Isn't it amazing that Family Radio, who demands perfection from the churches are playing Mormon advertisements? They won't send anyone to a faithful Presbyterian church but will send them to a Mormon church. I think it is the epitome of hypocrisy to expect perfection from another organization when your own people don't even know who the Mormons are, especially when you have a station located in Salt Lake City. Sounds like the Perfect Radio Network has a High Place. Camping's excuse when he was told, "Oh, sometimes these things get by us." If that was a church which did that, Camping and his minions would be all over it. The hypocrisy of it all stinks. (PS - I know it was a mistake but since they demand perfection, I am just holding them up to their own standards!)
Camping Discourages Fellowship Meeting Groups - 1/18/05
On December 21, 2004 on the Open Forum (68 minutes into the program) a Campingite called and asked if Family Radio would post the various Fellowship Groups which have formed around the country so other Campingites would know where they are. In a surprise response, Camping discouraged the formation of Fellowship Groups based on the fact that there is no mandate in Scripture to form them, they may become the personal gatherings of an individual, and they may give the notion that they are pseudo-churches. This brings to mind a verse in Scripture.
(1 Th 5:22 KJV) Abstain from
all appearance of evil.
According to Camping and his followers, the churches are all dead and have been
abandoned by God, then wouldn't forming a fellowship, which looks like a church,
be engaging in the appearance of evil? I thought Campingites were strict
Biblicists! If they truly want to live up to what they preach, then they
need to dissolve all these Fellowships so they will not be giving the appearance
of evil! Oh yes, one more thing, in that response Camping did not state
that his fellowship in Alameda, California would be dissolved.
Is Someone really going to say that Camping is not "THE" authority in "HIS" fellowship?
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Harold Camping's Teaching Betrays his own Teaching! - km 8/16/03
If the church age ended in 1988 and Satan took his seat in the temple (the corporate church), Harold Camping was still a member of a church until 2001. This means that the origin of Depart Out and High Places (1999) began under satanic origin and leadership in the Alameda Church, since the Holy Spirit fled and Harold Camping was under the wrath of God at that time. Therefore, since he was under God's wrath and was in a church for 13 years under the authority of Satan, whatever teaching that was developed, was started by Satan. This means that the Depart Out theory is of satanic origin and must be rejected by God's children. It can only be embraced by unbelievers. His own doctrine has betrayed him, especially in the area of timing. He was under Satan's authority for seven years. No wonder solid Christians have fought this teaching, because it is satanic in origin and the Holy Spirit gives discernment to know the spirit of error and the spirit of truth.
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Family Radio Removed From Sky Angel - 5/01/03
Because of Harold Camping's continuous rebellion against God and His Church, Sky Angel will remove Family Radio on July 1, 2003. This move was initiated by Sky Angel as they wisely do not want to be part of Camping's heresy. Simultaneous with their big push for Sky Angel came the ability to take credit card donations. Since obviously the station income was down, there seemed to be a major switch to Sky Angel. Judging from the advertisements for it every half hour or sooner, this was probably looked upon to replace the donations which were lost by those wise and understanding Christians who have chosen not to help propagate Camping's heresy.
(Prov 29:1 KJV) He, that being often reproved
hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.
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Associated Press Article - Oakland, CA 1/23/03 1/25/03
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Dave Morrell Returns to Family Radio - 6/01/03
The Death of Family Radio - A Reverse Allegory - 1/17/03
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December 10 Insight by Joel Nederhood - 1/1/03
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Jerry Edinger Resigns
- From: "Jerry Edinger"
To:
Subject: regarding my resignation
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:12:42 -0800
- Dear Dave
- On December 16, 2002 I tendered my resignation to Family Radio. I have been the host of "Nightwatch" for almost 34 years and leave sadly and will miss the day to day sharing the gospel with my listeners. My listeners are the greatest people on the earth. I've received many thousands of letters in my years with FR and almost all of them are of the encouraging type....BUT there have been some correcting me on some issue....and you know what? I thank God for them too ....usually they were right. I have many fond memories here at FR....but the false teaching, heresy, evil messages the general manager continues to send forth are an embarrassment to almost all FR employees. A small percentage of staff are hanging on every word he says. They repeat "by rote" answers from their misled mentor and really do not think for themselves.
- I leave sadly and yet I know it is God's will for me. My two producers....Seth Pitzer and Al Tuiasosopo are wonderful men....they have been so great to work with ....they remain good friends. I have kept almost all my friends here at family...There is an old Scottish proverb that says....."He who ceases to be your good friend.....was never your friend to begin with". I believe that. I've experienced it here at FR.
- One final thought.....my leaving is a RESIGNATION....not a retirement. OK???
- God has a place for me to serve. By His Grace and enablement I will continue to bring the Gospel while I am living.
- God bless you. Maranatha!
- In Christ Jesus....Jerry Edinger
- I believe Jerry Edinger has been one of the most stable voices on Family Radio. He has never bowed the knee to that destructive heretic, now or during the 1994 debacle. He will be sorely missed. I wonder which one of his little minions Camping is going to TRY to replace him with. If you are looking for good Christian music without the heresy and hypocrisy of Camping and his minions, tune to www.oldchristianradio.com - Ken
Harold Camping is playing with legal fire. If Camping fires an employee of Family Radio, whether by forcing them out or just outright firing, because they do not adhere to his Depart Out Teachings or have not left their church, this opens Family Radio for a lawsuit based on "Religious Discrimination." If the Plaintiff is successful proving religious discrimination, then this could lead to Family Radio losing their Tax Exempt Status. The Board of Directors of Family Radio have a lot to consider. Remember how they got Al Capone? Through the Courts!
Turkey and The Camping Imagination
The following article is from The Reformer - May/June 2002 of the Protestant Alliance, Bedford, England. My comments at the end.
CHURCHES THREATENED WITH CLOSURE
As many as 40 different churches have been threatened with local closure since December by police and local authorities in Turkey.
Official letters have been sent to the churches demanding that they cease all activities and threatening to fine and imprison church members if they continue to attend. Local officials argue that the churches are illegally being used as places of worship under the country's zoning laws because they are officially registered as homes or businesses. One report indicates that some 81% of mosques under construction in Turkey also lack official registration as places of worship, yet no similar threats have been made against them. Some churches have received threatening phone calls and frequent police visits.
A construction engineer working on one new church building has had his credentials revoked, another has been interrogated. Until the end of last year most Christians in Turkey had been free to meet and worship without fear of harassment or intimidation. Then in November and December several disastrous television programs and newspaper articles attacking Christianity created a stir amongst the majority Muslim population, and it is this which seems to have prompted the crack down by Turkish authorities.
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Camping and his followers are trying to say that all the seven churches in the book of Revelation went apostate and that is why God destroyed them. This article from The Protestant Alliance shows that the church is alive and well in Turkey but now under severe persecution. Family Radio is not the only open door in Turkey. The fact that these churches are still alive, means that in the area where the seven churches of Revelation were, there is still living churches and a living witness. This article also reveals why churches have disappeared, not because of apostasy but because of persecution. Camping and his disciples should stop their lies because they are casting aspersions upon churches and brothers and sisters in the Lord which may have suffered severe persecution because of teaching the truth and not for having gone apostate, of which Camping has no historical evidence except his own imagination.
Mark Talbot - Vice-Chairman of Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals Concerning Family Radio
A Letter from a Camping Family Member
