Hating the Local Church

Yahoo Group Reformed Watchmen Message Number 11803 - 3/28/02

Reformed Watchmen is still active but is not the same one.  The Campingites have moved to a group called Latter Rain.

This is the type of rancor toward the church and the people of God that this heretical teaching is spawning. This is a long quote but I place it here in its entirety to show the level of understanding these Campingites have of the Bible and how they just take God’s Word and abuse it like it is some kind of a vain novel. The other sad part is how they are always cutting and pasting Strong’s Greek words as if they really know what it means. Tools are dangerous in the hands of a juvenile. This person equates God’s church to a tavern. When I was a drinking person over 21 years ago, I didn’t sing “Amazing Grace” or “Rock of Ages” in the bar. I drank to Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. To date, these bands have never appeared in any church I ever attended. Highlights mine! It is important to know what effects false teaching have on biblically immature people.  It shows how false teachings affect the attitudes.    This type of attitude reveals the difference between following the Lord Jesus Christ and following a man.

"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" (Jeremiah 5:31)

Insisting that someone must be in a certain place at a certain time to "worship" is nothing short of a works gospel coupled with blasphemy. Jesus said His words are spirit and life (John 6:63); "spirit" being the quiet, personal relationship with Him as our Lord.

Before Jesus broke fellowship with the "religious leaders" He would ridicule the self-proclaimed "God's anointed"; the parable of the wineskins in Mark 2 points to the fact that their "religion" was passing away. The wine they drank intoxicated them with external rituals and "exhilarating" performance. This is why the people loved it so, God had blinded them.

Exhilaration comes in many ways in the corporate church today. Perhaps it is in mixed sex choirs, Christian rock and rap, and even a paid located pastor who, instead of going into all the world, takes his seat in the "temple" and all but proclaims he is a Christ. Of course, there may be equally if not more qualified teachers in the congregation who could do the job for free, but they are just called "carpenters, engineers or even supermarket workers". Maybe ol preach can't find an honest job. Again, paying a hypocritical "reverend" to preach (not dialogue) is like getting an ethics lesson from the mafia.

The corporate church will deny that judgment begins with them (1 Peter 4:17, compare 1 Timothy 3:15) and they will deny that parallels exist between the old testament and new, but they can't see because God has blinded them to truth and make them drunk on their own ignorance.

"'Your pomp and the music of your harps Have been brought down to Sheol; Maggots are spread out as your bed beneath you And worms are your covering.'" (Isaiah 14:11) nas

"For thus saith the LORD God of Israel unto me; Take the wine cup of this fury at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it. And they shall drink, and be moved, and be mad, because of the sword that I will send among them. Then took I the cup at the LORD'S hand, and made all the nations to drink, unto whom the LORD had sent me" (Jeremiah 25:15-17).

In ancient paganism and voodoo people would often use dance, wine and music instruments. I watched a "praise" service on TV the other day and it was quite identical to documentaries I have seen about Voodoo - - except the "chickens" being sacrificed wore white and fluttered around the room repeating the dancing, jerking and barking.

"Praising" God by composing songs that contain teaching error are in a way telling God that His own words don't have as much value; or maybe they do but "we just don't use them".

Chalal (2490) khaw-lal'; a prim. root [comp. 2470]; prop. to bore, i. e. (by impl.) to wound, to dissolve; fig. to profane (a person, place or thing), to break (one's word), to begin (as if by an "opening wedge"); denom. (from 2485) to play (the flute): - begin (* men began), defile, * break, defile, * eat (as common things), * first, * gather the grape thereof, * take inheritance, pipe, player on instruments, pollute, (cast as) profane (self), prostitute,

slay (slain), sorrow, stain, wound.

One cannot run a successful saloon without instrumental music and neither could the corporate church raise money without such. Without all that music they might have to place attention on God's word.

Now would any true child of God remain in such a hate-monger filled environment?

"Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence. Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD'S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad" (Jeremiah 51:6,7)

Not if they are sober. Why? Because God keep the feet of His elect - 1 Samuel 2:9.

Prophecy from John warns:

"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." (Revelation 14:8).

That's pretty clear --- isn't it?

If you're sober it is.

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all."
(Revelation 18:3-4,14).

"And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." (Revelation 18:22-24).

The goal of Jesus was to make burdens easier, not playing emotions in order to put more scratch in the plate when it is passed around. But this is what truth haters want, and unfortunately, God has a history of gathering such together and raining down His wrath on them.

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Latter Rain Message 24868 posted August 4th.